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Hahaha Walters that's funny (despite the fact that what you said was a load of crap, Im just trying my hardest to not lay any low blows back at you. Mate's dont do that)
I believe you (as well as others) have mistaken the point of this thread
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who cares if they choose to express it that way; your not doing that sort of thing so why does it affect you? Mate i mean this in the nicest way - but considering you havent been in love with another person, you wouldnt know what it is capable of doing to you emotional wise. You wait till your in love... then come back and see if your think what you have said is still justified! |
Meh, screw what I said above. You have made yourself to look like an idiot Walters. You have contradicted yourself. You said that | Walters wrote: | | you wouldnt know what it is capable of doing to you emotional wise. |
that's cool, perhaps I am a walking lobotomy. You also said:
| Walters wrote: | | ...then come back and see if your think what you have said is still justified! |
Who said that what I thought needed to be justified?? As I have been seeing on this topic for ages now. Love (and the topic) needs no justification. And your telling me to justify it lol... After you (as well as others) tell me that id needs no justifying. Ahh well.
BUT WAIT THERES MORE!!!! (sorry, no steak knives, if there was I'd use it to stab you on the back. kidding)
| Walters wrote: | | but considering you havent been in love with another person |
...and how do you know this? Can you tell me how I havent ever been in love? Are there steps, "symptoms" etc that "proves" I am in love with somebody. Please tell me this, so I can learn from the "master" of love.
| Walters wrote: | | You wait till your in love |
Oh I love you Walters (pun intended) when you talk such contradictory crap like this... Please tell me how long I need to wait. Seeing as though you know all and have been in love before and I havent. You tell me I need to wait, but then you cant tell me how long it is. It's like telling me to wait until the end of the world. Good on you man, smart work.
I havent even began to use those steak knives to have a stab at your current misfortune. It's like kicking somebody in the testicles.
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:37 pm |
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What if I told you I was gay? What if I told you I was a paedophile? What if I told you I was a necropheliac? How would you treat me? If there was this dude that I really loved "incredibly" and wanted to marry him. And I proclaimed my love for this man. Would you tell me that I wasn't in love? What if I proclaimed my dearest love for my 6 year old cousin, and wanted to commit sexual acts with her. Would I be in love? If so, why? if not why? If I was in love with my hetrosexual partner, and she died. And I still loved her. Would I be justified in wanting to commit sexual acts with her dead body? If you people said to me, that I wasn't in love with either my homosexual partner, cousin, or dead partner. How would you know this? If you were to say to me that having sex with dead people is wrong, but I was in love with her. You couldnt tell me I was wrong could you, even though I love her and still wanted sexual activity. Because you dont know my feelings and thoughts about those people.
Seriously, here are a lot of people out there that are in those situations who believe that they are in love with those sorts of people. Are they really in love? What defines love?
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:40 pm |
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| Quote: | | Seriously, here are a lot of people out there that are in those situations who believe that they are in love with those sorts of people. Are they really in love? What defines love? |
This is worse then an english assignment. |
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:42 pm |
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I made 3 big posts.. and thats all you come up with???
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:45 pm |
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Yes.
| Quote: | Like seriously... where did all this crap come from?
Who cares how another person expresses themself in a relationship?
It really shouldnt bother you or make you care about something that has nothing to do with you!
Every relationship is different, hence everyone expresses their feelings differently! |
Agreed. He is obviously speaking in the bounds of relationships that DON'T INCLUDE THIS
| Quote: | | What if I told you I was gay? What if I told you I was a paedophile? What if I told you I was a necropheliac? How would you treat me? If there was this dude that I really loved "incredibly" and wanted to marry him. And I proclaimed my love for this man. Would you tell me that I wasn't in love? What if I proclaimed my dearest love for my 6 year old cousin, and wanted to commit sexual acts with her. Would I be in love? If so, why? if not why? If I was in love with my hetrosexual partner, and she died. And I still loved her. Would I be justified in wanting to commit sexual acts with her dead body? If you people said to me, that I wasn't in love with either my homosexual partner, cousin, or dead partner. How would you know this? If you were to say to me that having sex with dead people is wrong, but I was in love with her. You couldnt tell me I was wrong could you, even though I love her and still wanted sexual activity. Because you dont know my feelings and thoughts about those people. |
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:45 pm |
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So hetrosexual relationships are the only sort? What if there was a person that we all knew and were friends with that were a necro or a paedohpile? Would you tell him/her that they were wrong??
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:48 pm |
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Walters is speaking of relationships that are acceptable in society e.g teenage relationships.
You are speaking of the "love" included in this post
| Quote: | | What if I told you I was gay? What if I told you I was a paedophile? What if I told you I was a necropheliac? How would you treat me? If there was this dude that I really loved "incredibly" and wanted to marry him. And I proclaimed my love for this man. Would you tell me that I wasn't in love? What if I proclaimed my dearest love for my 6 year old cousin, and wanted to commit sexual acts with her. Would I be in love? If so, why? if not why? If I was in love with my hetrosexual partner, and she died. And I still loved her. |
I think the conflict here is due to both of you.
No 2 relationships are the same. Therefore both of you haven't experienced what the other has experienced. |
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:51 pm |
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| inf0rm3r wrote: | | are acceptable in society e.g teenage relationships. |
Define "acceptable": If you mean acceptable you mean a hetrosexual relationship between two teenagers of similar age. Then I will say to you "look around and see the sorts of people that are teenagers who are gay, bisexual and what have you". If there are a lot of them, does it make it acceptable or not?
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:58 pm |
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This is where your beliefs come in. You believe in christianity, it says no its not acceptable. But from a worldy perspective it is acceptable in some cases.
That still doesn't give you rights to say hey what your doing isn't right up in front of their face. Thats just going to get urself in all sorts of strife. Basically it all comes down to what different people believe. Afterall people will do anything to feel good these days or to feel acceptable. |
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:07 pm |
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Thats exactly one of my points.... Beliefs. That beliefs (even if they seem like knowledge) may sometimes be wrong. We agree on this??
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:46 pm |
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Is necrophilia wrong? Yes.
Is rape wrong? Yes.
Is paedophilia wrong? Yes.
You beg to differ, than I sir will see you in jail. If you believe that there's nothing wrong with that, too fucking bad. You live in this country, you abide by the laws we have in relation to this.
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:54 pm |
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I know that, you know that... We all know it. But could their actions be justified if they "love" the person?
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No.
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Don't triple post! Nah, im ok with many posting  It just looks a little weird. But does really grind my gears are when people 'break down a post' and make heaps of quotes and analyse them all. It makes things not very coherant and it just seems like overkill with what can be done with only a quote or two. Its next to impossible to combat (due to the not being nothered to break down a broken down post) and personally i find it really boring to read. But this is just personal opinion so don't take it as an order . Back to drama...
| Wilkins' orinigal question wrote: | You have people going on about "I love you, I love you" and everywhere is riddled with I luv soandso 4 EVA... Yoy get the point. This "love" is proclaimed within a couple of weeks. Even days. Why do you think this happens and what are the causes? You see it everywhere. I luv you 4 EVA. We will always be.
What is this all about, and why? Do you think this is just hyped up feelings for someone? Explain |
| Wilkins wrote: | | ...and how do you know this? Can you tell me how I havent ever been in love? Are there steps, "symptoms" etc that "proves" I am in love with somebody. Please tell me this, so I can learn from the "master" of love. |
It might be overhyped, but how are we supposed to know? You said it yourself, so cased closed on that? I know where adam was coming from when he said about validation with things and i fully agree that could be it for a few relationships, but who the heck are we to second guess someone's feelings. If you plan on passing judgement into someone's relationship and try to meddle... There's a thing called Karma. You reap what you sew.
And i think i know what Walters was trying to say, it just came out a little wrong. So don't be too harsh on him guys.
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Finally a decent post. Thanks Mittens  .
I was getting at the fact that Walters was telling me to basically justify the unjustifyable (which if I ask for people to do, I get pwnd) and getting up me for the things that I have asked about knowing when your in love etc, because I've never been in love according to him. Which is a contradiction, because he wouldnt know because they arent his feelings.
See what Im getting at?
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| Wilkins wrote: | | What is this all about |
That my friends, fiends and whatever you want to label yourselves because if I label you as something I will get into major trouble's is what I call a question. A nice simple question for those who KNOW that they are in love can answer this for me. I, the walking lobotomy was asking a question, not a statement. A question to those who know all 
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Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:48 pm |
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umm, does anyone else see the irony in arguing about this?
to be quite honest, i laugh every time i read over this thread. i mean it's absolute LoL, you spend all this time worrying about what love is, what love isn't, who is and isn't in love, who this, what that, it's all just a huge pile of LoL getting in the way of the actual point of love.
i ask, what is life?
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Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:46 pm |
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I know what you are saying Elliot. I will quit/let it slide when Walters responds to me.
*waits*... *makes sammich* *then waits some more*.. *looks at watch*
Walters??
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I have to say that I consider Elliot to be the wisest person in here, closely followed by Wilkins, I mean they looked at the big picture instead of just narrowing it down.
I'm having a little fight with love at the moment so I guess the jury's out for a while.
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I actually think both of them, while having a broad range, come from an isolated perspective.
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Yeah...
I dunno, I just don't think it's a good argument when people just relate it to a single person, its like surveying one person to find out who a town will vote as it's next politician (Gilmore Girls lol... I've been contaminated).
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| Quote: | | isolated perspective. |
i gotta ask what the problem with that is, not looking for a fight... but i happen to like my perspective. i can't for the life of me see how it's wrong, unless you happen to be an islamic extremist. |
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Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:12 pm |
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Ok, I'm going to win this Battle.
| 1st Corinthians 13 wrote: | If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails. |
That's what the Bible says about true love.
Now, the feelings... Do they HONESTLY compare to that scripture?
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Reading that it made me start to think that I did actually love Jariah, that I do, I was always critical of that.
Except we failed, maybe she never actually felt the way that I felt about her...
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All the feelings of love I ever felt towards people (in particular old mate Becky) fell incredibly short of that scripture
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We were soo close to love...
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 ... We love you Donkey. Does that count/compensate?
*pushes up shoulder to screen* here man, heres the shoulder if you wanna cry ... Don't hesitate
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| Quote: | Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
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| Wilkins wrote: | | Now, the feelings... Do they HONESTLY compare to that scripture? |
 Yep...
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*doesn't rant about 1cor 13.*
calm yourself, elliott... save it for some night in the future, when you have your stuff together. |
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