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Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:02 am
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Mr Mittens says:
What made you a Christian? What was that first thing?
Josh † Tell the world! † The reason is you † I have no words, my voice is in my blade † Shame is for losers † I'm no superman † says:
umm who knows really...
Josh † Tell the world! † The reason is you † I have no words, my voice is in my blade † Shame is for losers † I'm no superman † says:
what first made me go to youth? why did I first put up my hand? why did I even want to?
Josh † Tell the world! † The reason is you † I have no words, my voice is in my blade † Shame is for losers † I'm no superman † says:
I guess I first went to youth cause a few people seemed to be going and it seemed pretty cool, and hey I wasn't too popular at the time so yay friends
Josh † Tell the world! † The reason is you † I have no words, my voice is in my blade † Shame is for losers † I'm no superman † says:
I think I sat through a few youth alives being too scared to put up my hand, I think I did it at my second youth alive (boondall one that is), and then at pring st youth when I kinda understood what it meant, not really sure why I just felt like i had to
Josh † Tell the world! † The reason is you † I have no words, my voice is in my blade † Shame is for losers † I'm no superman † says:
ironically, same time as debbie
Josh † Tell the world! † The reason is you † I have no words, my voice is in my blade † Shame is for losers † I'm no superman † says:
can you answer that question?
Josh † Tell the world! † The reason is you † I have no words, my voice is in my blade † Shame is for losers † I'm no superman † says:
while I have a shower?
Mr Mittens says:
Yes i can
Josh † Tell the world! † The reason is you † I have no words, my voice is in my blade † Shame is for losers † I'm no superman † says:

Mr Mittens says:
I was born into a Christian family and all, so it felt like i had this big responsibilty on me to always be good and maybe ever carry on in dads place in the future. I used to have fun, my parents always made sure i didn't feel too pressured into anything, but i still felt the expectation
Mr Mittens says:
I made a few friends at church, i made a few enemies
Mr Mittens says:
It was almost just another place to go to ever weekend. I went through a stage when i was about 10 dreading church. I just hated having to go there and missing things with friends
Mr Mittens says:
I always admired my brother so much - i still do
Mr Mittens says:
I always used to look up to him on advice on how to live life, he seemed to know a lot
Mr Mittens says:
It was probably thanks to that why i started to dislike church so much
Mr Mittens says:
I hated sunday mornings, i used to fake being sick, trying to sleepover peopels places to avoid it
Mr Mittens says:
Youth i could live with... games with friends
Mr Mittens says:
I used to hate the music, i just hated everything about it. I didn't agree with the message and i thought that the songs were terrible
Mr Mittens says:
I used to call out to God 'give me a sign, give me anything to show me that you're out there' I never got anything so i just wanted to give up on it all, just get away from the church, get away from the expectations
Mr Mittens says:
I brought a lot of people to youth.,. little did i know that would all be instrumental in the end for me
Mr Mittens says:
That time when you asked me to the camp... i cant ever remember why i went anymore. It seemed crazy and i really wanted to back out but for some reason i said yes
Mr Mittens says:
One the first night the speaker said something like 'no matter whats holding you back, just let go. If its your friends, if its the MUSIC just let it go'
Mr Mittens says:
I thought I would just give it one more shot, one more night
Mr Mittens says:
I remember thinking something like 'if this doesnt work i think its time to cut myself from the church'
Mr Mittens says:
I got into it, had a good time and thought about things a bit more
Mr Mittens says:
The second day, the morning when everyone was being prayed for
Mr Mittens says:
When that guy picked me out of EVERYONE in the youth group to pray over, i knew somehting was up. I didn't even go to the youth group! I purposly stood so he couldnt see me, i didnt want to go to the front
Mr Mittens says:
But he said 'you, out of the way. I want the boy behind you'
Mr Mittens says:
And then when the youth group prayed for the youth leader, the passion that Larrissa showed, how she broke into tears straight away, that was it
Mr Mittens says:
I know it may seem like i just have a crush on her or something, but i am more thankful then i could ever express
Mr Mittens says:
She pretty much saved me
Mr Mittens says:
That night when we stodd there singing, crying, asking for it
Mr Mittens says:
I just broke down, hugging and crying jariah, it was just too much
Mr Mittens says:
Ever since then... I've seen things differently
Mr Mittens says:
My spot in the church is not an 'expectation' its an adventure, a challenge
Mr Mittens says:
I've always liked helping people... now i do it differently
Mr Mittens says:
And planetshakers, everything. Just everything has grown since then
Mr Mittens says:
'that' night at youth just a few weeks back when I prayed for Neilson and everyone was crying
Mr Mittens says:
I looked and saw the youth group... i saw a family
Mr Mittens says:
And i couldn't of done it without you guys
Mr Mittens says:
Walters, you, elliott, BenK, Ryan
Mr Mittens says:
All of you have done so much
Mr Mittens says:
Norman
Mr Mittens says:
And I'm just so thankful
Mr Mittens says:
When Steph ran away from the hosptial... i was certain that she wasn't coming back
Mr Mittens says:
I prepared myself into thinking that she was dead
Mr Mittens says:
One of those nights i sat there crying, praying, holding a picture that she painted for me 5 years ago in my hands just wishing that she would come back. She came back that night
Mr Mittens says:
Praying for Jacqui at Planetshakers... just the simple talks about religion, its all been so great
Mr Mittens says:
Telling Larrissa everything shes done was another highlight
Mr Mittens says:
But everything, its just been so amazing and im not ready for it to stop
Mr Mittens says:
Penny, Neilson, Robbie, Semi - all amazing people
Mr Mittens says:
Wilkins, all of them so instrumental with everything
Mr Mittens says:
I've been crying for the last 25 minutes, my long youth weekend finally broke me and i love it

Discuss... There were a lot of things in there that are common among everyone of us, not just the Christians.
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Read.

Mr Mittens says:
What made you a Christian? What was that first thing?

Josh † Tell the world! † The reason is you † I have no words, my voice is in my blade † Shame is for losers † I'm no superman † says:
umm who knows really...
What first made me go to youth? why did I first put up my hand? why did I even want to?
I guess I first went to youth cause a few people seemed to be going and it seemed pretty cool, and hey I wasn't too popular at the time so yay friends

I think I sat through a few youth alives being too scared to put up my hand, I think I did it at my second youth alive (boondall one that is), and then at pring st youth when I kinda understood what it meant, not really sure why I just felt like i had to.
Ironically, same time as debbie.

can you answer that question?
while I have a shower?

Mr Mittens says:
Yes i can
Josh † Tell the world! † The reason is you † I have no words, my voice is in my blade † Shame is for losers † I'm no superman † says:
Smile

Mr Mittens says:
I was born into a Christian family and all, so it felt like i had this big responsibilty on me to always be good and maybe ever carry on in dads place in the future. I used to have fun, my parents always made sure i didn't feel too pressured into anything, but i still felt the expectation

I made a few friends at church, i made a few enemies
It was almost just another place to go to ever weekend. I went through a stage when i was about 10 dreading church. I just hated having to go there and missing things with friends

My Brother and sister made some big mistakes in their time
I always admired my brother so much - i still do
I always used to look up to him on advice on how to live life, he seemed to know a lot
It was probably thanks to that why i started to dislike church so much

I hated sunday mornings, i used to fake being sick, trying to sleepover peoples places to avoid it
Youth i could live with... games with friends
I used to hate the music, i just hated everything about it. I didn't agree with the message and i thought that the songs were terrible

I used to call out to God 'give me a sign, give me anything to show me that you're out there' I never got anything so i just wanted to give up on it all, just get away from the church, get away from the expectations
I brought a lot of people to youth.,. little did i know that would all be instrumental in the end for me

That time when you asked me to the camp... i cant ever remember why i went anymore. It seemed crazy and i really wanted to back out but for some reason i said yes
One the first night the speaker said something like 'no matter whats holding you back, just let go. If its your friends, if its the MUSIC just let it go'
I thought I would just give it one more shot, one more night
I remember thinking something like 'if this doesnt work i think its time to cut myself from the church'
I got into it, had a good time and thought about things a bit more

The second day, the morning when everyone was being prayed for
When that guy picked me out of EVERYONE in the youth group to pray over, i knew somehting was up. I didn't even go to the youth group! I purposly stood so he couldnt see me, i didnt want to go to the front
But he said 'you, out of the way. I want the boy behind you'

And then when the youth group prayed for the youth leader, the passion that Larrissa showed, how she broke into tears straight away, that was it
I know it may seem like i just have a crush on her or something, but i am more thankful then i could ever express
She pretty much saved me


That night when we stodd there singing, crying, asking for it
I just broke down, crying and hugging jariah, it was just too much
Ever since then... I've seen things differently

My spot in the church is not an 'expectation' its an adventure, a challenge
I've always liked helping people... now i do it differently

And planetshakers, everything. Just everything has grown since then
'that' night at youth just a few weeks back when I prayed for Neilson and everyone was crying
I looked and saw the youth group... i saw a family
And i couldn't of done it without you guys
Walters, you, elliott, BenK, Ryan
All of you have done so much
Norman
And I'm just so thankful

When Steph ran away from the hosptial... i was certain that she wasn't coming back
I prepared myself into thinking that she was dead
One of those nights i sat there crying, praying, holding a picture that she painted for me 5 years ago in my hands just wishing that she would come back. She came back that night

Praying for Jacqui at Planetshakers... just the simple talks about religion, its all been so great
Telling Larrissa everything shes done was another highlight
But everything, its just been so amazing and im not ready for it to stop

Penny, Neilson, Robbie, Semi - all amazing people
Wilkins, all of them so instrumental with everything
I've been crying for the last 25 minutes, my long youth weekend finally broke me and i love it

Discuss... There were a lot of things in there that are common among everyone of us, not just the Christians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG3be9SpoHk
Yep, thats a story straight from the heart. I'm not sure how much of it is suitable for the internet but its its been a good night and needed to be said.
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That was a great read, both of you.
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I looked and saw the youth group... i saw a family

Yes, yes, yes. With God, and all of you, I've found something that's completely above what I could have ever imagined. My real family is amazing, and now it's nice to know I have another one.


WARNING: Long and probably boring testimony ahead. Feel free to read.


Why was I drawn to God.. hmm, here we go. I, like Shane and a few others on here, was born into a christian family. I've known people like Shane, Candace and Stephen pretty much my whole life. I go to the same church, every Sunday, again and again. I remember my first time in Sunday School, everyone laughed at me because I couldn't colour in a rose properly. The only times I would go to the church meetings on the holidays, I would take in a book so I wouldn't have to listen to the boring message (or so I thought).

The beginning of 2005, grade seven.. I was on MSN. Candace asked me, "So, are you going to come to youth?" I said yes, but I was terrified. I wasn't a teenager, I hadn't been there before, I wouldn't fit in, I wouldn't know anyone, yada yada yada. Turns out it was a decision that led to the best of my life. Unfortunately, my brothers gave up.. but yeah, I'm still apraying for them. That's not the point, anyway. I came to Youth the first time, I didn't go inside. I stood outside and talked to Vicki. I had braces. Lukas had McDonalds.

I used to try and fit in.. but you were all best friends, and it's hard to break into something like that. So I just kind of played the games, made a fool of myself in the song time, laughed and just kind of sat on the sidelines. But then.. Courtney, who was my only friend, told me about a thing called Youth Alive, and how the music was SO loud that you wouldn't even be able to hear each other talk!! Of course, me being the little loud music lovin' rebel 11 year old that I was, decided to go. It changed my life.

Mike Guglielmucci, who now has terminal cancer (and after finding out this, wrote the song 'Healer'), was speaking at the Youth Alive. He spoke about how his best friend had committed suicide. I remember tears going down my face, because I was really depressed. I was thinking about death and stuff a lot, how people wouldn't miss me if I just died.. but that's what Mike's best friend thought. And her suicide letter got a convention center (or whereever we were) full of people bawling. I didn't want to do that. I went out the front that night, by myself. Courtney told me not to, but I did. I was all alone filling out the sheet, all alone as I walked back. I pretty much figured that's what this would have to be, me being a Christian all alone. That was probably one of the most loneliest moments of my life, and yet.. it wasn't. I'd found Him. I was too shy to talk to anyone about it, I pretended it didn't even happen.

Church camp, around June 2005, it was the Saturday night. I haven't told many people this, so feel priviliged ay. But yeah, the speaker had been talking about signs from God, and how a giant flash had come into his room after he asked for a sign. So I went back in my room, and for the first time.. I fell on my knees in front of God, in a dirty camp cabin, with cockroaches watching. And asked for a sign. Nothing happened.. so I climbed into bed, feeling disappointed. I turned on my mp3 player.. and a christian song came on. The first line was "You are someone, even if nobody knows you, you are not a no one." And then.. the bunk bed started to shake. I was on the TOP, and this was a METAL HEAVY bunk bed. The windows were shut, and it was a freezing cold night. But for about ten seconds, the bed shook.. and I was warm. Ok, so I was 11, and probably imagined it.. but it works for me.

Still, a year later and I'd barely made a stand. It was too scary to do it all alone, I had no idea what to do, what to say. So, I just went on as usual again. I was back at the same camp, except all my friends were there, so I couldn't exactly get back on my knees again. The prophesy lady that I saw again last night, prophesied over Stephen.. but I hid from her. I didn't want to know what God would say about my life. How I was a secret Christian, and only by myself. I was so ashamed.

And then.. and then. September came. No one was at youth except a few of us, and.. even though I think the others may (MAY) have been faking it for a show, we got up on stage and did this big thing for "Love You So Much". For the first time. I could put up my hands. Even if nobody else was, I could. Only for one song though. It wasn't enough.

So what happened? The boys came back from camp, they did! I saw the glow they had on their faces, how they described it, and.. I was excited for the song time at youth. My friends came, heaps of people came, the atmosphere was amazing. Then song time. The boys shot their hands up, and I looked around for a bit. My friends were staring. But no, it was time to no longer be ashamed. So I put my hand up. To my Savior. The One I love with all of my heart. My friends stared as I got on my knees and prayed with Norman.. but I no longer cared.

Without God, I'd still be the same maniac loser I was in year 7.

Sorry if that was TL/DR. But I've never written that down all before. I probably ruined this thread, because I don't quite understand the title. Sorry for that.

If you are reading this right now, and you are not a christian. Just try it out.. please. You'll be given something that you just can't find anywhere else. Look how happy it's made us. Look what it's done. Can't you see it? It's the ultimate happiness. Don't let it pass you by. God's waiting.

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OMG, I'm like crying reading all of this.

It's so beautiful, and that is why I chose to give my life to Him and become a Christian.

Norman said to me once that the majority of people who become Christian, do it through family or relationships. Mine was certainly done through a relationship. And I really am not scared to say it now, being with Shane was one of the best things that's happened to me. As well as that, there are other things... Like Ryan... Okay let's go through this properly...

Shane - He brought me into the group at school, and I had no idea that any of you were Christian. But I found out eventually, then closely watched you all. I was an Atheist at that time, so I was rather against Christianity and stuff, and I didn't want to be "converted", rofl. But then Shane would tell me about all the stuff that had happened through God, how people's lives were saved, how people were healed and happy, and how close you all were through it. I wanted that. I craved happiness, because I didn't have it, not at all. I wanted to be loved for eternity. And I guess because I didn't want to believe in God, I chose to try and find that love through relationships. So yes, I wanted to learn more about Christianity and stuff, so I'd ask questions, and I made that thread asking for help and stuff. I remember the threads I made in this forum asking questions, asking for help. I saw how you were all so willing, but still, I couldn't easily just give up a lifetime of forced disbelief, as much as I wanted to. It was a battle. Here's a few quotes from those threads to give a brief look back in time to how I was...

Help me... wrote:
Alright.. A couple of you know this.. but most of you don't.. For a little while now I've been trying to decide whether or not to become a Christian.
This is why:

I always thought that I was missing something inside myself, and that's why I could never be truly happy. And just recently (like a few months ago), I thought that religion might be what I'm missing. So I had been trying to learn more about Christianity. Another influence was Shane.. when he told me about stuff that had happened spiritually with people (eg. Jacqui at PlanetShakers), he seemed so happy.. I wanted to be a part of that.

So I tried really hard to get my head around the concept of me possibly having something like Christianity as a part of my life... And along with that came me reaching out to God.. I prayed a lot over that short period of time, and it just seemed like I was being ignored.. So.. I gave up.

Last night, I spoke to Chris about it, and then to Shane.. and told him that religion just "wasn't me". I felt like a major let down to him... I didn't mean for it to happen..

Anyway, I said to Chris, "I found all that happiness, in Shane."
He said to me, "Do you think God is working through Shane?"


I think He was working through Shane now, definitely. Shane said to me a week or two ago:

June 3rd:
(10:15 PM) Mr Mittens: Man I am so proud of where you've come to
Sometimes i think that the real purpose for me being in your life wasn't to go out or get married or anything, but instead it was to bring you to where you are now
And if thats what my mission was, consider it accomplished.

That last quote was just before I got my major sign. I think... Yeah. But anyways, that led to the convo with Ryan.

With Ryan - That night... I was crying over MSN to him about my mum, and I was saying how I didn't want her to die. He told me to pray for her, and pray for a sign that God was real. So I did it. And you all know the rest... I stopped breathing, fell to my knees, went blind, and then, I felt a warm hand touch my heart, and then I could see again.

I remember when I told you all... There was so much love on Thoih that night. And maybe it was just the hype of it all, but I knew that this was where I wanted to be. I relapsed though... and found myself not believing again, with that quote up there. ^ It's so long ago now I can't remember whether that happened before I got my big sign, or after... It doesn't matter though I guess, the point is it happened. But yes, I got back on the horse.
Onto next quote:

Liza's Little Religion Thread wrote:
I'm one of those people who was brought up with no beliefs.
As soon as I met all of you, my life began to change, I could feel it.
And now that I've been touched by God and everything.. My heart feels fuller, I'm not as cold at night, and my thoughts are a heck of a lot more positive.

I was one of those people.. who was critical (just like Josh said about himself).. I saw too much into the logic of it all, rather than what was in my heart.
I believed, "God can't be real, I can't believe it.. I'll only believe it if I can see him and touch him."

Well guys.. I've touched him.. or at least, he's touched me.
I believe guys.. I believe..

I feel the transformation in myself. I feel different..
Like I said, my heart feels fuller, I'm not as cold at night, and my thoughts are a heck of a lot more positive..

Thank you all heaps.


I still feel that way. Despite my recent "down period", I still feel it. I think of God every single day, I play P&W music almost everyday for some amount of time, and I pray so much. I get urges to do things that I would never have done before all this. I want to help people, I want God to use me to save people. I pray for people, and I remember the night I prayed for a girl's mum, because she had a 80% chance of having cancer. A couple of nights later, the girl came back to me and told me that her mum no longer has the risk of cancer, it was almost certain she had it, but it just disappeared. The girl then came back the day after that and said, "I want to become a Christian."

It's things like that, that tell me that I never want to go back to the way I was before. I listen to songs like The Face of Love by Sanctus Real, and the lyrics mean more to me than ever.

Sanctus Real - The Face of Love wrote:
I’ve seen your face on stained glass, in colored lights
In pictures of you looking to the sky

You’ve been portrayed a thousand different ways
But my heart can see you better than my eyes
‘Cause it’s love that points the portrait of your life

The face of love
The face of love
You look more like love everyday

I’ve read your words in the pages of your life
And I’ve imagined what you were like
I may not know the shape of your face
But I can feel your heart changing mine
And your love still proves that you’re alive

The face of love
The face of love
You look more like love everyday

You are the face that changed the whole world
No one too lost for you love
No one too low for you to serve
So give us the grace to change the world
No one too lost for me to love
No one too low for me to serve

Let us see...
Let us be your face


Looking back on all of this makes me so warm inside. I've shared so much with you all and I feel the love all the time.

I received gifts like tongues, but the greatest gift of all was the repairing of my heart, and the thing I always wanted - someone to love me for eternity.
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Nearly got me crying there Eliza..
I am awestruck by what God has done, even just within our group. It's.. there isn't a word to describe it.
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wow ... thats amazing

i dont really know about my story not that amazing i dont think but hey Razz ill write later Razz mum kicking me off f
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What drew me? You guys. Hearing the stories you've told about how you were touched and you suddenly felt a thousand times better and your troubles went away (even if it was just for that moment).

I was raised in a Christian household, not as much as Shane though, but I was still brought up believing. Too young to really understand the meaning behind it all. Just went to church to see Shane, others came later.

Wondering came probably the first or second youth camp, I was wondering about if it all was real, what He could do. One of the times Geoff was talking he said if you want more from Him, then put your hand up, so I did. Kinda grown from there really. The longing for more has grown, understanding as well, but still no big life altering experience like the rest of you. The big thing keeping me going is hearing about you guys and wanting it.

I guess for me it's been gradual, boot camp maybe? Being trained up so that when it does hit I can make the most of it.



Ah it's a short one, not really a story to talk about.
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Shane invited me to youth. I thought, yeah what the hey. I liked it. I went back. I went through some great times. Then I starting becoming resentful to the whole religion thing. Eventually, I thought that's it. I was so close to giving up. I thought, ok I will go to the camp. So I did. I thought the camp would be my swan song. My final youth expedition.

I don't know what happened, but something Reggie said touched me. It was almost an explanation. The "you know how you always have someone to turn to", it made me think of Ben. How he was there through everything to do with Jessie. You all were to an extent, but Ben...he stood out, as being my "someone to turn to". Then he mentioned that "some people, they have no one". Considering the fact that was on teenage pregnancy, that struck a nerve. What with my cousin being preggers and all, and not having the best childhood. By all means not necessarily bad, but it still struck a nerve.

The next day, the Saturday. THE Saturday. When Malcolm came the stuff he said was amazing (considering my Jessie problems). And when he prayed or prophesized or whatever it was, I can't remember but he prayed for the walls to be torn down. And God hit them with an RPG.

Then I completely buggered up Easter. It disenfranchised me and over the next few weeks I thought "What's the point?" and gave up, I walked away from it all. I did not however sell my Planetshakers ticket to obtain money I thought I needed. I thought, maybe it can all turn around. And I hung onto that bit of hope.

Then I started creating my own explanations for everything, most of it was psychological. Then realising how much I was angering and offending people decided to shut up. Time went on and I received some potentially terrible news. I decided to pray over it. I went to Ben's and got a clip in the ear and thought, yeah what they hey I'll go back to Youth. Youth was very emotional for me. I knew the Spirit was there in that building and I was almost terrified of it. I looked at Nielsen, Penny, Shane and Ben during song time, and thought yes, this is real. Then Ben got owned and it somehow eased my thoughts on it, however I was halfway there.

I went to church Sunday night for the prophecy, and the things that were said there made perfect sense. I got my prophecy and it...well it was really something else. So I'm making my effort and I probably could make more of an effort. However, I'm taking it slowly. I'll get back, just give me time to ease into it again. See, my problem before was both rushing into it and being "caught in a moment". I'm getting there, when I'm ready.
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Hey Chris.

I am happy for you. I am almost in tears as I am writing this. Ok, that changed, I am in tears. I am so.. happy. I can almost see God up there smiling down at you, because it's one more step in the right direction, even if it's just a small one. The P.U.S.H blog I wrote the other day actually came from you.. when you made your 'I've had a gutful' post, I said that I'd been praying for you. I didn't stop. Every single night, for a long time. I cried, a lot. Prayer is good Smile .

Chris, when you go along your christian walk, I can pretty much guarentee (sp?) things will get rough. Jesus never said it was going to be easy. But when you're going through the rough times.. He's going to be there. Sometimes it'll probably seem like He can't hear you, or He's choosing not to. But He's there. Don't let go of Him. Chris.. God loves you.

I'm going to leave it at that. You have plenty of friends that will be willing to talk if you ever need it, don't forget that either.

I'm crying now, ignore this silly emotional post Razz .
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"He's going to be there. Sometimes it'll probably seem like He can't hear you, or He's choosing not to. But He's there. Don't let go of Him."

*testifies to that*
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I love you.
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I love you too.
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I love you both Very Happy
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Penny wrote:
Jesus never said it was going to be easy.


Yeah, and what He went through wasn't easy either, but He didn't back down, for all of us. We're supposed to be like Him, yes?
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Believably yes.
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yeh well i was born into a half christian family mum is sort of dosent go to church anymore i have never heard music of anysort in this house besides mine Razz and dad says he belives in god then he goes off swearing and getting angry over nothing like he did tonight he got really angry then drunk then drunken angry all over a casserole lid ...

well anyway my story.

i actually started more about 3/4 weeks ago i started going to thursdays and staurdays 6:00 prayer mettings becuase i didnt feel weird with it anymore and i wanted some help with my depression so then about a week ago for like 2 days all i did was pray read the bible sing planetshakers and whatnot i was happy at school for those 2 days just singing songs in my head praying for everything and then on thursday i prayed for tongue all night and some other stuff for me or other people.

then i also prayed if i do get prayed over to get tongues and not too much to prove the existince of god because ive seen some of the stuff hed done in other people:)Razz.

then thursday came and then slowly got into the good songs and i praised him heaps and then i was on the ground ling down and then it started slowly my shoulder kept jumping around then some other stuff went a bit crazy and it made me heaps happy so i stubled into the crache and then it got heaps stronger and soon i was going everywhere:P then i was just sort of babbling one little line not really conciously either Razz and then i did get prayed over and it calmed down but it was still a struggle to stay still Razz and then yes i was heaps happy .

it only went down a bit but now im heaps happy again nce calm i am getting excited easy over nothing its great Razz my story


ooh and i got slain in the spirit .. at school hehe he did say it wouldent be easy :p [/quote]


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Great, Robbie Very Happy .
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i had a long road to salvation... i went to a catholic church when i was little, and i was told that i was a christian, and i accepted it without even thinking. then ten years old, it was, 'yeah, you'll be right, they say you're a christian, and they're heaps older and smarter so they must be right.'

then my dad left his then wife, who basically brought me up, for another woman. for a long time dad had nothing to do with God, and neither did i. then about four years ago, dad met annette, my current stepmum. they went to uni together, then they went out walking together, then they went to church together, then they started taking me. to a tiny vineyard churchgroup held in the hall of a primary school. i went every few weeks, they had free coffee and a 'fellowship' time halfways through the meeting for which every family brought something delicious. alot of the stuff the pastor there said sunk in, but i never acted on it. i had learned about the sacrifice of christ and how by it our sins could be forgiven. it sunk in, i understood. i went there for years, saw my dad get baptised, then i decided again, this time understanding it all, that i would be a christian. i went to that church intermittantly for a good year after that, god spoke to me a few times, i guess in hindsight i could call it prophesy.

but i started hanging out with you mob at lunches, and going to youth. penny, elle, i wouldn't have been attracted to the group OR youth if you two weren't there, shining bright. over the next few months, there was the start of a friendship between me, shane and josh, and some others, notably wilkins. so when josh asked me to his youth camp i thought, oh yeah, this'll be a chance to really get to know shane and josh a bit better. i didn't learn anything at all about shane or josh that weekend, but i learned alot about god, and though i didn't know how important it was, i confessed that jesus is lord vocally... since then there's been a few huge ups, like that night at school on my own, followed up by that night at school with norman and wilkins... god telling me who i am, then telling me again (pretty much the same thing) on sunday night thorugh people that couldn't possibly know... it just amazes me, and continues to amaze me.
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penny, i don't know what we can say to you to make you realise how amazing you are, but i hope someday you'll work it out.

i love you all... i really do.
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Mine will not be as long as all yours but yeah.I am a pretty hypocritical Christian I believe. So much failings. But whatever.

Why do I continue? Well, I really do not know. I guess it is something I have grown to accept and adapt in my life and hopefully it will have centre of my life. Everything that I want to do in life has some sort of Christ centreing in it. Having a brutal death metal band with Christian ideaologies etc. Doing professional mixing of underground Christian albums. Everything that I want to do has some sort of Christian link to it. I guess that's good. I have seen with real Christians (not just the ones that wear the label) that they are really happy, and have something going for them. And there are so many non Christians living in depression, sadness and a poverty mentality. For one, I don't want to be a part of that. I want to be a part of the fulfillment and prosperity that the Lord has promised me.

Forgiveness is another thing that I'm learning to do. While many people hold on to hatred and resentment (which can ultimately kill someone), I try not to. It's a learning path.

Sometimes I go "what the hell, why not continue, theres nothing else to do". Basically a faithless belief. But, at the right time, God gives me something admist of the fecal world we live in that boosts my faith a bit. I know the Word of God is true. But hey, actions speak louder then words.

Christianity is a path, not a fad nor fase. Nor is it easy, gnostics have said that Christianity is the hardest religion to obey. Very true. But hey, I see enough truth to keep going.
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Well... I guess mine was pretty straight forward, I was born, baptised and thrown face-first into a half-arsed christian enviorment. Throughout my entire life I was told that God was real and that Jesus loves you ect ect and I believed it. Not because i wanted to, but because I felt that I had no other choice, no church, no youth... Everyone else did, so why not me? At assembly you'd sing and jump around, fall alseep whenever someone tried to tell you about God. It was so damn boring! I always thought "Well this isn't that hard... sit through a couple of assemblys... Sing songs and all that jazz and I'm a shoe in for enternal life in heaven right?"

Then it all started going downhill...

Year six I was failing horribly, everyone in my neighbourhood seemed so much different. People my age into drugs and sex. It tore me apart to hear about people doing these things at first... Then I kinda sank into it, like a hot bath. Then, I started doing it myself... Watching people ruin their lives without giving a helping hand. I was nearly talked into loosing... More than I had to gain. I had no one to talk to, since no one would listen. So I took it into my own hands and tried to sort my own life out. It helped my grades, but it didn't stop me from stealing and hurting people. Soon enough I found an outlet and started training in Karate, it definatly helped. But there was something missing... Some great hole that stopped me from feeling well and truely happy with myself.

Year nine and I was scraping along, Semi seemed to pop out of nowhere and we became fast friends. Life seemed a little brighter, now having a broader friendship group and a difference in opinions (Meaning more to argue about). Then, after a hard day of falling asleep at school and forgetting about doing homework, Semi introduced me to Neilsen. My life turned the day I got to talk to him.

Somehow (Through his good looks and charm xD) he persuaded me to go to youth and church. At first I was kinda scared, watching all these people really get into it, at school I used to laugh at people like that, but there it different, I felt different. Over the short time I had been going, talking to people who went and overall enjoying what was there. I felt changed inside, something was there, slowly filling that hole that I had created. I felt alive... alive and happy. Now I can truely apprieciate everything that God has done for us and i thank all of you for it.
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Wow...

I saw the title to this thread and I was like "wow, what a good idea, who came up with that?"

Then I saw that it was me... modest aren't I?

I've spent so long away from thoih that I've missed the goings on... There is so much contained in this thread. If I ever turned away from God, bring me back here.

But yeah, you won't ever need to.

It's really touching, knowing everyones stories.

For those of you who don't know God, just sit back and have a think, and for a second I challenge you to not listen to your mind, the one thats saying yeah right.

Instead, consider this...

These people are all happy, they weren't happy before, but now they are. Could this make you happy too?
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