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Wilkins
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:58 pm |
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Feelings of liking and love are hard to tell people. Having said that, Valentines Day was rather depressing for me. But you wouldn't know it would you. Me expressing anger and frustation is more easier than showing feelings of hurt and sadness. The reason why I am saying this to you is because that I am in an internal predicament. This predicament is of uncertainty abd confusion, that is the minefield of feelings for girls. But it is not just that.
Valentines Day made me feel bad because I saw a lot of people with lots of roses. People being with their boyfriends? girlfriends, or constantly talking about them. What Walters did for me was really nice, but then one of my other mates whom I respect greatly was trying to destory the only good thing about my day. He did it "for the lols". But not only that, this mate who I respect highly tried to burn me with a lighter. Any other day I would of laughed, but I felt like crap. Not only this, another one of my friends that I hold in high regards has since Saturday kinda abandoned me and acted different towards me due to something that he heard, but judged me and the situation before he got my side of the story. I am talking about Josh Nicholls and the "abuse" of that Zac kid. I really did thing my mates did value me as a person.
Not only that, but there is the whole me liking girls and girls liking me thing. I know most of the time my mates respect me, and think of me highlt. But why can't girls see this? Am I really a bad person? Am I really a dickhead and a freak? If I am such a good person, then why can't girls see this? Girls say that they like a crazy guy, but that isn't what I see. When ever a decent looking guy does something that I would normally do, they get the "Oh my God, that is lyk so funny" response. But if I was to do something I would normally do, I get the "ewww, you are a freak, shame" treat,emt/ Mpt to mention the Sam and Courtnru having se thing. Sam would do anything with legs, but I can not get a single girl to have anything that resembles feelings. I am, as you all "say" a good peraon. I don't want to have drunken sex, or anything like that, all I want is to like someone and someone do the same in return. I am not a pervert or a pimp, which I have been told is a good thing to do. If it is good, being a good moral person, then why am I in the rut that I am in? With no girl liking me and all.
Before you say "there is always some one that likes you". I grant myself permission to call bullshit. If you can find just one person that has anything that represents a good or decent thought of me, then I will be happy. But until that day I will be screaming bullshit all day long.
I guess also that all my good mates are either liking someone or going out with someone. I also have become sick and tired of hearing about how good my mates' dates are. I mean that in the way that I am more than happy to talk about this sort of thing, but at the same time it takes me back to a time when I was happy. But those times are a long gone. Talking girls/feelings/relationships hurt because it is some of self revelation of my inadequacies (which brings the saying "I take me inadequacies out on others").
Here is a list of mates and associates that are going out with people:
Adam- Debbie
Josh- Jariah
Shane- Eliza
Walters- Liz
Cheyenne- Brad
Norman- Jessica
Not to mention all those of you that like someone (if I have missed out on a couple, I'm sorry). You get the picture.
To Claire and the people that wanted me to go to the dabce, The reason why I didn't go is because all of my mates that I know that went are going out with someone. Besides, Valentine's Day is about couples. Not us 3rd wheels. If I was to go, I would of mate it not enjoyable for all, due to my current attitude. Not because I didnt have the money. I just didn't want to make it bad for you.
I guess if I am such a good person, then why can't girls see this? If I am "one in a million", then why can't others besides my mates see this?
What is my problem? Why am I so unlikeable? The last girl that held me in high regards was Jess Brennan, my mate from Victoria. Why was she the only girl to hold me in high regard?
What is wrong with me? Be honest
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:13 pm |
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| Man i really dont know what to say after that... sorry? Like Im sorry if i do talk about liz alot... i never thought of it like the way you described it! Theres nothing wrong with you... dont go searching for the girl - she'll come to you! Like the one your destined for will revel her to you! Until then theres only patience! |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:43 pm |
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| Quote: | | Not only this, another one of my friends that I hold in high regards has since Saturday kinda abandoned me and acted different towards me due to something that he heard, but judged me and the situation before he got my side of the story. I am talking about Josh Nicholls and the "abuse" of that Zac kid. I really did thing my mates did value me as a person. |
For the time i was there, you didnt abuse him. So don't worry about that you didnt do anything wrong, Your not that stupid that you would abuse someone while their dad was there.
| Quote: | | But why can't girls see this? |
Well from what I've noticed is that girls only see your comical side and your music tastes. They don't actually know who the real matthew is on the inside. But us mates know that deep down your just a softy and a decent bloke because we talk about everything. For example kate, claire and that lot they only see the crazy matthew. But Jess a girl who you've never met but actually got to know and show your care for her is a completely different story. You've never actually met her but shes seen the other side of you. And she liked it
| Quote: | | Sam would do anything with legs, but I can not get a single girl to have anything that resembles feelings. |
No offence to sam here or anyone else for that matter. Example here. lets face it sam is already in a serious physical relationship with a girl he's known that has alot of problems obviously. He's known her for what 2 weeks and their already at it. This is what I and many others like to call lust. Most of the time these people are simply sharing their insecurities and problems and simply patching them up by a one night stand or by sex or just plain stupidity. Most of the time these people are hurt deep down and yea i feel sorry for them. But back to that don't look at them their relationships aren't really relationships.
| Quote: | | Before you say "there is always some one that likes you". I grant myself permission to call bullshit. If you can find just one person that has anything that represents a good or decent thought of me, then I will be happy. But until that day I will be screaming bullshit all day long. |
Of course there's someone for everyone. Now before you call bullshit  . Stop looking if you are looking and just wait for that person. It may come sooner it may come later. But would you rather have 3 partners that aren't going to work in a relationship and get hurt or wait and have the perfect one you'll stay with. For now get to know a girl and show her who you really are, the real matthew the one we know not just the comic matthew and the metal matthew, thats just a bonus for them after they get to know you.
| Quote: | | I guess if I am such a good person, then why can't girls see this? If I am "one in a million", then why can't others besides my mates see this? |
Every person is different so of course you one in a million. As i said above show them the other side of matthew.
The following may offend non-christians I am just making him aware of something in the bible I'm not here to bible bash anyone etc etc etc. *DISCLAIMER*
Also because your a christian, the bible says not to be with unequal youch however u spell it. So stick to christian girls. Now you may say theres no decent ones around. Good grief are blind you went to planet shakers you cant tell me out of 7,000 people you didnt find one attractive.
I didn't mean to offend anyone with non-christian beliefs because I don't think your bad or anything its just what he/I follow. There are plenty of good people out there that aren't christians.
| Quote: | | What is my problem? Why am I so unlikeable? The last girl that held me in high regards was Jess Brennan, my mate from Victoria. Why was she the only girl to hold me in high regard? |
The only one that got to know your other side you see?
| Quote: | | What is wrong with me? Be honest |
Absolutely nothing mate. 
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:15 pm |
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Well Matt, I felt similar yesterday. I shall describe me from yesterday in a different topic to avoid stealing your thunder.
But I'll give you something to think about. How much money did you spend on women for yesterday? How much did the rest of us suckers spend?
You win
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:19 pm |
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nice posts you pair... my advice to wilkins, don't worry about it.
my belief is that i'm in high school, and very few, if any, people find their future wives/husbands in high school. so i got plenty of time...
the last relationship i was in was complete bullshit, just a mediocre weekfull of lies piled on hate piled on stupidity, and before that there was a gap of about 4-5 years. i don't complain, i enjoy my life pretty much the way it is.
paul also wrote, "i have found the secret of contentment in all situations". this coming from a man in jail for his christian faith... it's powerful. so again, don't worry about it. and when people say, 'oh but the right girl will come along.', it doesn't mean don't try. don't sit in a corner feeling sorry for yourself...
the sad thing about relationships, people aren't comfortable being talked to by folk they don't really know that well... you can't just go all of a sudden, 'hi claire, wanna be friends?' and hope for the best... i dunno, no good conclusion again maybe? meh...
edit: chris, in light of a recent post by you, "you win." i lol. hmm, women and money... that relationship's on a steady base, that's for sure!!! |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:27 pm |
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the sad thing about relationships, people aren't comfortable being talked to by folk they don't really know that well... you can't just go all of a sudden, 'hi claire, wanna be friends?' and hope for the best... i dunno, no good conclusion again maybe? meh... |
Yeah exactly but there's always a shyness to begin with between males and females and noone deny that. Eventually it goes away. But then again I think we know Claire and matt doesn't work Its sort of like going to a new school. You know noone. |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:22 pm |
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shyness, yeah, but as a general rule i'm more comfortable around the fairer sex, dunno why...
meh, again, no conclusion. i'm tired, sorry? |
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First of all, that was a cheap shot at me and you know it. In all seriousness, if you had of asked me to stop with a straight face you know I would have. I'm completely sick of people being so selfish, this isn't related to you (directly), but I'm just sick of all the selfishness in the world anyway, back to post.
| Wilkins wrote: | | But not only that, this mate who I respect highly tried to burn me with a lighter. Any other day I would of laughed, but I felt like crap. |
Mate. You just said before that you find it easier to express 'anger' and whatnot more so than how you're actually feeling. You do a good job at this etc, but how are we to know that you're feeling different if you dont talk to us? If you had of told me that you were having an 'off' day, you know I would have respected that and left it at that. But, apparently i'm not good enough or something.
| Wilkins wrote: | | kinda abandoned me |
I know the feeling.
| Wilkins wrote: | | But why can't girls see this? Am I really a bad person? Am I really a dickhead and a freak? If I am such a good person, then why can't girls see this? |
You know you're not and it seems you're saying these things for reaction posts etc. But, in the end, you're exactly the same calling people skanks (stereotyping) and what not, just as they judge you for your musical taste etc. Plus, its not like everyone is going to instantly love you and whatever, it just doesn't happen. "You have to earn respect", I can't stress how important that is, there are so many people in whom i've lost my absolute respect for and over the past 5 or so years someone particularly close to me.
| Wilkins wrote: | | Sam and Courtnru having se thing. Sam would do anything with legs, |
Thats very rude and you know it.
| Wilkins wrote: | | Before you say "there is always some one that likes you". I grant myself permission to call bullshit. If you can find just one person that has anything that represents a good or decent thought of me, then I will be happy. But until that day I will be screaming bullshit all day long. |
In one way that can be very closely linked to religion, but lets leave that one out  .
| Wilkins wrote: | | I also have become sick and tired of hearing about how good my mates' dates are. |
And why haven't you told us this before? Instead of throwing the guilt trip upon us. But I remember the times where I felt particularly lonely and such, so I know how you feel.
| Wilkins wrote: | | Talking girls/feelings/relationships hurt because it is some of self revelation of my inadequacies |
One of the hardest things in life is getting over yourself, admitting fault and such and also swallowing your pride. I know exactly how this feels mate, but ......oh fuck, I forgot what I was going to say.... But I know how you feel from past experience etc.
I ran out of stuff to make a reaction post to, so I think i'll wind it all up here. Mate, as strong as your point may be but instead of thinking upon yourself as "Poor ol' matty wilkins", think of your self as "I'm matty-fwucken-breaks-bottle-wilkins". Dont stress about what you're missing out on, but more so focus on the positives of life. Simple as that, I know when I feel emotionally beat down due to the surrounding environment and what not, thats exactly what I do.
Oh, fuck and as for Koehlar I had something to say to him but I also forgot... which really annoys me. Found something
| Koehlar wrote: | | But back to that don't look at them their relationships aren't really relationships. |
That I pressume only applies to some? Yeah?
I think i'm going to wrap it up here....... I'll edit if more posts have been made.
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:08 pm |
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Good work, Ben.
I won't quote all of your post matthew but is sympathy what you want? Seems like it, even if you won't admit it.
But like everyone else has said, you'll find someone. You don't need to date someone to feel complete now. You know you have the rest of your life to find the perfect girl, nothing to stress over.
You know how great you are etc., just be patient.
I'm sure Adam didn't destroy your day.
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:42 pm |
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y'know it's easy to think, oh, he's going on about how shit his life is, must be doing it for sympathy, but that's not it. it's a part of human nature to tell people about it if you feel like shit.
not even if you feel like shit, even if you feel 'off'.
i know, when i get a little bit 'off', i often post about it, or hike to shaney's or jonno's place for a yarn. the only difference is, my off feelings are usually a bit, well, strange. honestly though, if you started seriously contemplating murder, just to see what it feels like, you're gonna talk about it to someone. wilkins doesn't have that problem (lucky?), but he worries about relationships instead. so he talks to people about it. |
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| dosthecat wrote: | y'know it's easy to think, oh, he's going on about how shit his life is, must be doing it for sympathy, but that's not it. it's a part of human nature to tell people about it if you feel like shit.
not even if you feel like shit, even if you feel 'off'.
i know, when i get a little bit 'off', i often post about it, or hike to shaney's or jonno's place for a yarn. the only difference is, my off feelings are usually a bit, well, strange. honestly though, if you started seriously contemplating murder, just to see what it feels like, you're gonna talk about it to someone. wilkins doesn't have that problem (lucky?), but he worries about relationships instead. so he talks to people about it. |
Well good for you
I said it seems like he's doing it for sympathy. To me. For reassurance.
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:53 pm |
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Debbie you're wrong.
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| Jr W wrote: | | Debbie you're wrong. |
This isn't about right-ness or wrong-ness. Its my interpretation of his post. The key word is 'my'. And I said it seems (TO ME) that he just wants reassurance.
I'm not attacking, just back off. I know you probably don't care what I think because i'm in a happy relationship. But I know how depressing it is to be alone on valentines day, and even when a relationship has just ended...
Geez
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Sorry Debbie, I didn't read into what you were saying too far. I didn't see reassurance.
Matt, you're a standup bloke, with a top-notch heart. Feel better
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:16 pm |
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| yes, reassuarance is a lots better word than seeking sympathy. which implies emo. which everyone hates. |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:21 pm |
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| Quote: | | That I pressume only applies to some? Yeah? |
I'm not exactly sure what you ment by this. But I'll explain it in another way with that I ment for that. I don't call lust a relationship. Its obvious if people are only there to touch each other theres no real relationship. Thats what i ment and nothing else. |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:33 pm |
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| there are other kinds though, other kinds of pretend love. like being smitten, ow that stuff stings. but yeah, that and lust, the same boat really. |
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:47 pm |
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Matt, sweetheart, I respect you very highly...
| Quote: | | I guess if I am such a good person, then why can't girls see this? If I am "one in a million", then why can't others besides my mates see this? |
I can see it.
You're a fantastic person Matt, really. I am not just saying that.
When I first joined the group at school, you were the first person that left an impression on me. I remember saying to Shane, "I want Wilkins to be my best friend!"
I don't know if that means anything to you or not since you don't know me all that well, but I just thought I'd say that. For the record.
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| I N F O R M E R wrote: | | Quote: | | That I pressume only applies to some? Yeah? |
I'm not exactly sure what you ment by this. But I'll explain it in another way with that I ment for that. I don't call lust a relationship. Its obvious if people are only there to touch each other theres no real relationship. Thats what i ment and nothing else. |
Yeah, I get you nowl.
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:19 pm |
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Yeah I didn't mean anything offensive.
| Quote: | | Plus, its not like everyone is going to instantly love you and whatever, it just doesn't happen. "You have to earn respect" |
Why do the words you have to earn respect make me think of black people and grand theft auto?
| Quote: | | Thats very rude and you know it. |
Well sam says shit when people don't have girlfriends, I'll accept his attack there |
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Guys is it really necessary for the negative comments? As you can see matt has put alot of thought into this and in a way whether you see this or not... he is opening doors that have been locked for so long. Matt has decided to express his feelings on thoih and i respect that! He is obviously feeling left out at our group, with the whole not-having-a-gf thing and if i knew about this i obviously wouldnt have gone on about liz as stated above!
I really dont think you are helping him with your negative comments of saying he is only doing it for "sympathy" or "reaction" posts!
1) He wants you/us to help him in this particular area
2) We are his friends and we should oblige (sp?) to straight away without giving him crap about it.
3) This is pretty wierd comming from me of all people, but we should started listening to what the teachers are saying (gasp) and actually start to mature! Im really not trying to blame the finger at anyone but Elliott... you and your fire cravings isnt really setting a good example for the younger grades! You most probably are all thinking ahh shut up walters give yourself some of your own medicine before you give it to us! But im not just saying it to you, im saying it to me aswell.
Sorry went a bit of track but i read this post last period today and after i finished i was speechless, whether it was because i didnt know if i had anything to say or i was just shocked at how he felt. I never would have thought matthew to be like that and interested into girls (no offence), but i feel we have to help our friend through this e.g. encouragement, postive comments. But to matthew... I'm sorry you feel like this, and i know how you feel - ive been there before mate, but in fact the right chick does come, and as stated above - Patience is a great virtuosity and she will come, god will show you who you are meant for! Believe me. |
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erm, baggin out my fire are you?
as if i give a damn about the younger grades... and as if seeing me mess around is going to turn them into criminals or whatever...
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Holy shit!!! Bloody hell... All I did was say my feelings and whatnot, being open to my mates and whatnot... then all this??? What on Earth?? I just wrote what I thought, and Debbie in particular just slamming me like that. What the heck! Next time you write a half thought out post besides a "your lame, geez  " post I'm going to pick at it and criticise everything you say. Seems like your doing it to me.
But seriously... I wrote what I felt. It was not a "sympathy" thing at all... Just a collaboration of thought.
Some times I feel better about this sort of thing than others...
Oh and by the way. Thanks Ben, Chris, Elliot, Walters, Shane and Eliza for your help, with your words on here and MSN... It's a great help. And no Debbie, I am not looking for bit of honesty. If there is something wrong with me, then tell me... that is what I was asking. Not a sympathy seeker...
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| Wilkins wrote: | | I am not looking for bit of honesty |
Okay, so you're speaking your feelings and what not, but what do you expect us to do? Just say kthxbai?? You've asked us exactly what we think about you and the situation, even if it wasn't directly you've posted this on thoih which is enough of a question already. Come on mate, what do you expect us to do or say? You've thrown this out into the spotlight, really, what else did you expect?
As for the quote, that seems to be exactly what you're after and now that you know what we think about what you've had to say, it seems to be a little different (or something).
Really, what did you expect?
| Walters wrote: | | Guys is it really necessary for the negative comments |
Negative comments? We were replying to Wilkins' post, not necessarily in a negative way, but in the way that we see them? And if that appears to be in a negative way, so be it.
| Walters wrote: | | ... he is opening doors that have been locked for so long. |
Shut up, Elliots metaphors are better
| Walters wrote: | | 1) He wants you/us to help him in this particular area |
And how are we supposed to help? I thought I was helping and I also thought that I'd give an insight to how I am feeling, or is that completely different? Which leads to yours (and mine) next point. Keep reading folks.
| Walters wrote: | | 2) We are his friends and we should oblige (sp?) to straight away without giving him crap about it. |
Yeah, as right as you may be, we aren't giving him crap about anything, we're giving our own insight about how we feel in response to what he has had to say, etc.
| Walters wrote: | 3) This is pretty wierd comming from me of all people, but we should started listening to what the teachers are saying (gasp) and actually start to mature!
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Like when ol' mate Daven (naiker) told you to take the hat off, that's didn't do any good at all, but you and I both continued to ignore that and nothing bad happened out of it. You see, teachers aren't really that right after all, its the logic behind some things is what some people look up to, but you see for maturity, thats just helping with our own lives, but maturity has nothing to do this situation or post at all, so... shuddup.
If this wasn't an attention stunt or a reassurance stunt or whatever, why was it passed around the school yard like it was? Or why wasn't this written in a diary or a myspace blog or something? Sure, we like to know what you're (everyone reading) feeling, but in the end you have to respect that everyone will have different opinions and feelings about the situation and yeah, you have to respect that.
| Walters wrote: | | Elliott... you and your fire cravings isnt really setting a good example for the younger grades |
Yeah, he's dissing fire, but also...You told us how much you spent on liz for Valentines day and what not, that isnt' really setting a good idea to younger people either, is it? You're setting the (*change of mood*) example to younger people about the consumer-ism (??) of Valentines day... i'm not taking a cheap shot, just trying to give an example. Because, I know the fact that Debbie put so much effort into making me a card, that really does mean so much more to me than $40 worth or roses and a Hallmark card. See what i'm getting at? But, i'm off subject again.
Take it to myspace!
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Budderball
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Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:50 pm |
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| how is me talking about what gift i get for people on a particular day got anything to do with setting a bad example for the younger students? |
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Mr Mittens
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Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:34 pm |
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| wilkins wrote: | | Holy *censored*!!! Bloody hell... All I did was say my feelings and whatnot, being open to my mates and whatnot... then all this??? What on Earth?? I just wrote what I thought |
Well if its your thoughts you can't just expect everyone to agree with them without question adn say "aw... we're sowwy wilkins etc." Some people wont agree with your thoughts, some will agree with them, and some could be living them right now. You made a direct negative remark about Adam so its human nature for him to react badly. Debbie just followed suit, you insulted her boyfriend so she'll approach the post wtih a negative mind.
If you didn't see the fact that he didn't like what you said coming.... Its not that hard.
Personally about the post... I can relate to the feeling of lonliness on valentines day, we've all been there before. But some of the other things that you said were a fair bit retarded...
| wilkins wrote: | | Before you say "there is always some one that likes you". I grant myself permission to call bullshit. If you can find just one person that has anything that represents a good or decent thought of me, then I will be happy. But until that day I will be screaming bullshit all day long. |
Cheer the hell up then. You know that there is at least one girl out there that likes you. That whole paragraph in general kinda lost me... you know for a fact that Eliza values you very highly as a friend. Like look what she wrote about you in here.
But the whole post just seems like treading old ground. You've already talked about and defeated most of it in the past, why bring it up again? Just a lot of the things that you said in here seemd too extreme to be realistic.
Look Wilkins, you know that i love you to death, i value the life out of you. You're one of my very closest friends I have so dont take this as an attack. Oh well, at least it sparked some conversation.
| Ads wrote: | | ...You told us how much you spent on liz for Valentines day and what not, that isnt' really setting a good idea to younger people either, is it? You're setting the (*change of mood*) example to younger people about the consumer-ism (??) of Valentines day... i'm not taking a cheap shot, just trying to give an example. Because, I know the fact that Debbie put so much effort into making me a card, that really does mean so much more to me than $40 worth or roses and a Hallmark card. See what i'm getting at? But, i'm off subject again. |
Hmm... Are you high?
I see nothing wrong with Waltereses wanting to spend money on his girlfriend. He didn't feel obliged to spend money on her, he wanted to. I for one, spent all of the money that i had. Why? Because i wanted to. There's nothing better i could of possibly spent my money on then her. I also made her the most heartfelt letter i could possibly write. But we're not allowed to because the next generation will use all of their money. (Which they will obtain through the use of theft and rap music and various other stereotypes since we're in the mood) I like how Debbie used her day. I like how Walters used his day (i dont know what you did). Don't bag on someone because they want to spend money on a girl.
Consumerism? I'm not quite sold on this yet... keep it coming.
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Good post, Shane.
| Mr Mittens wrote: | | you know for a fact that Eliza values you very highly as a friend. Like look what she wrote about you in here. |
That's very true. I'm trying as best I can to get to know you, Matt. I want to be a close friend of yours, THAT's how much I care.
*Hugs Wilkins* 
Cheer up kiddo.
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Nice post shane... not only cause you took my side!
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Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:52 pm |
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If I can be off-topic for a minute...
Consumerism on V-Day works on a coin basis. There are two very valid arguements, neither is wrong
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Valentine's Day is a time to MAN UP! and do something nice for your significant other.
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It's too commercial and loses value. Make your own shit.
I'd rant more, but I'm busy and have an injured ranting finger.
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well, the obvious attack on valentine's, to me, is to mash together some ptretty things yourself, letters or poetry or songs or whatever, then give your fool money to charity, then tell them.
it's a huge score in all areas, except your own pocket/time. but it'd be worth it, even past the giving you gf stuff to make her love you more thing, because once her parents heard what you'd done, you'd score huge points with them as well.
sad though, my v-day gift is a fictional one to a fictional gf, and it still beats all yours? |
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