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| Corpse wrote: | Fred... Can I ask you a question.. pitty that I will ask anyway 
Ok.. You may hate Christians, because we are hypocrites (many of us) of the Bible and Christianity.. But, seeing as though you are an athiests. And maybe you hate Jesus.. Why do you hate Him? Have you ever met Jesus in the flesh? Have you talked to Him? See thats why I am annoyed with many Christ haters... they hate Christ because they hate us Christians, and never met Christ... That is no real reason to hate Christ... |
Heh, no... I don't hate Christians (most). And I don't hate Jesus, that's like hating Hitler, they're dead, what's the point..
This doesn't just go for Christianity, ALL organised religions (with the exception of a few like buddism... they get free food form everyone, can you tell?) censor and discriminate because of their religion.
Take a conversation I had the other day with someone for instance; Person wasn't going to watch The Omen because it 'was the anti-christ' as she put it, not because she didn't like scary movies or anything... It's her desision and I don't really care, it's just a really stupid reason; someone says it's evil (even though it's not) so people don't do it.
That's a really small example but you get what I mean, and there will surely be Christians, among others, protesting to have good books, movies and everything else they don't like banned.
I hate only 'I Ride The Yellow Bus', '2fly4lyf' and religious people that try to push their ideals and beliefs on everyone else.
Hypocrits are great, as long as they aren't removing my entertainment.
And to the muslim remark, notice how they aren't blowing shit up in Australia? (Yet at least...)
That's because we havn't bombed them etc. unlike America. Not terrorists, just people defending their own country. And cronulla was just a bunch of imbreds and bogans attacking each other, can't expect more in Sydney...
Da Vinci Code is a good example but Scientology works better... And i'm sure we can all agree that's the stupidest faith ever... Right?...
| Quote: | | ...some of the most of the most violent things were committed by people that claimed to be Christian but clearly weren’t (maybe that’s why many people hate Christians). |
Quite a few of those people probably were/are christians, the crusades was christians using it as justification and to control a bunch of people so they could kill other people.
www.godhatesshrimp.com I have to ask, are you going to stop eating shrimp now?
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| I don't agree with religions trying to censor entertainment unless it's in their establishment where said piece of entertainment is being brought upon by a guest. However what goes on in the general public should not be censored for purely religious reasons. There are things where you must consider the appropriateness in regard to public order, or what children are exposed to. |
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*Agrees with Chris for once*
But children shouldn't be as sheltered as they are, that's one cause of emos.
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I support gay marriage.
But only if both chicks are hot.
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| So Fred.. do you beleive Christ ever existed? |
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Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:19 pm |
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Back in my day when jebus was around we never had Christ
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I believe there was a guy who had a book written about him over thousands of years and by hundreds of people, it became an eccentric tale and people took it too far.
The man, yes. The man in the story, no.
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*sighs*
Its funny, hey Matt. How people become paraylised from the Holy Spirit, but that isn't real? There is nothing like sinking into worship and feeling his presence, it's like a drug...Even better than any.
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What?
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| Fullmetal wrote: | *sighs*
Its funny, hey Matt. How people become paraylised from the Holy Spirit, but that isn't real? There is nothing like sinking into worship and feeling his presence, it's like a drug...Even better than any. |
Heck yeah!
Once people get out of the mindset that everything has to be measured in numbers, statistics, graphs etc. Only then will one person begin and try to comprehend the vastness and greatness of God.
Us as people have tendancies that everything has a measure, a limit or that God is finite... Once you get out of that mindset, thats when you will begin to do things and try things that is not possible. Thats why I am not afraid to die... Because if I was to die.. I would go straight to Heaven which pwns Earth! |
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Well bloody said.
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But, as christians, we can't force or try to make you into believing that there is a God, and that Jesus was his only Son. You have to find that out for yourselves. I mean honestly, ask yourselv'es this. Have any of of you actually found out the answer yourselves? I don' think so. You are all going on by what other people in today's society believe. You have not actually looked for the evidence. What you are believing is the more rediculous than what you think christianity is. You are going by what everyone else thinks/says/believes. You might deny this, but you know it's true.
I'm saying to find out the answer for yourself. Who cares what everyone else says. Read the bible. Pray to God, ask him to reveal himself to you and change your life. Its so stupid how you guys think you can argue against all this when you have not experienced ANY of it for yourself. Try it, read the bible. Ask God to change your life through his words. Believe me, things happen.
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And if nothing happens, then you win. You can continue to believe everyone else.
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Sorry guys I know im smashing the forum, but one other thing...
You can't really judge God/Jesus because you don't know them. Thats like trying to judge some person you pass on the street. You know nothing of that person, so try talking about him. Sure you can discuss what he looks like, but thats not important.
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I reckon aye.. Non Christians dont beleive Christ existed yet how come they use the good ol' BC (Before Christ) and AD (Anno Domini) Time system.. There must of been a Christ for there to be a time before Him and a death.. so if there was a time before Him and a death of Him doesnt that make everything else true?
Fred and others read these lyrics:
You hate Him, because of us
You never knew Him personally
And yet you hate Him, because of us
It's not like He hurt you
It's not like He sinned
Why?
You say he doesnt exist and yet you hate Him
You blame Him for the downfall of your life
And you don't applaud Him when you life is going right
You hate him with a passion without knowing Him or seeing Him
He is the centre of time, and yet you don't believe He exists
You hate Him because of us
Why?
He didn't do anything to hurt you
And yet you curse His name everyday and night
You curse Him, and yet to you He doesn't exist
You judge Him, and yet you have no right
You blame Him for the darkness, and yet He is Light
Why?
Blood seeped through His body for you for people to see
And yet you cannot see the Light
You try and kill us because you hate Him
And yet you don't think he exists
You deliberatly live a life that is against Him
And yet you don't beleive He is real
Why?
You see how much your thoughts and actions are contradictions
You blame Him for the bad, and no grattidude for the good
Why do you live by these thoughts?
Why don't you see the hypocrisy of your thoughts
Why don't you see the Light
And stop blaming something that you don't think exists
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Exactly.
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[quote="Corpse"]
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| Quote: | | Us as people have tendancies that everything has a measure, a limit or that God is finite... |
I tried to tell Jessie the same thing, but without the god and stuff... Crazy people and their "The universe had to have started somewhere..." crap...
And those lyrics are terrible... I don't hate something I don't believe in, nor do I blame it for people's problems.
I don't feel like flaming or having an argument now, mabye next week?  But feel free to counter with whatever you wish.
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What? Have you actually had any experince with God at all?
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A few Verses Supplied by FullMetal....Thanks mate
Passage 1 Peter 1:13-16:
A Future in God
13 -16 So roll up your sleeves, put your mind in gear, be totally ready to receive the gift that's coming when Jesus arrives. Don't lazily slip back into those old grooves of evil, doing just what you feel like doing. You didn't know any better then; you do now. As obedient children, let yourselves be pulled into a way of life shaped by God's life, a life energetic and blazing with holiness. God said, "I am holy; you be holy."
My Meaning: When you work hard to be with god and you think you are there...or even if your not, dont go back to your old ways. You will achieve nothing if you do so.
(Rev 19:16) On his robe and thigh is written, King of kings, Lord of lords
My Meaning: He is our king, our lord, nothing else matters in life (or death) except him!
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Yeah. Word. The whole rev verse is -
11 -16Then I saw Heaven open wide—and oh! a white horse and its Rider. The Rider, named Faithful and True, judges and makes war in pure righteousness. His eyes are a blaze of fire, on his head many crowns. He has a Name inscribed that's known only to himself. He is dressed in a robe soaked with blood, and he is addressed as "Word of God." The armies of Heaven, mounted on white horses and dressed in dazzling white linen, follow him. A sharp sword comes out of his mouth so he can subdue the nations, then rule them with a rod of iron. He treads the winepress of the raging wrath of God, the Sovereign-Strong. On his robe and thigh is written, King of kings, Lord of lords.
Thats from the message version
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*nods head* yes i agree....he is our king
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| Dark Chaos wrote: | | My Meaning: When you work hard to be with god and you think you are there...or even if your not, dont go back to your old ways. You will achieve nothing if you do so. |
But then you wont have acheived anything anyway =\...
| Quote: | Passage 7 Peter 4:20-74:
And on the 15th day got came unto the earth and TotSE was born. That and the laws of alchemy shall be the only truths in life for evermore. |
And it's true. Jeff Hunter is the besterest.
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Umm Peter was in the New Testiment.. The beginning of the world was in Genises.. Old Testiment.. duh
*smacks Jeff in back of head* Stupid bum |
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| Corpse wrote: | Umm Peter was in the New Testiment.. The beginning of the world was in Genises.. Old Testiment.. duh
*smacks Jeff in back of head* Stupid bum |
*Jumps out of tree screaming like a little girl!!* Jeff Hunter owns!
My god can kick your gods ass!!
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Jeff vs Jesus?
That's pretty ambiguous. |
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Right.
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| The only good thing about Jeff Hunter is his last name.. It sounds like part of one of my favourite bands |
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Sex, bombs and more sex is all totSE is.....BORING! Fire is so much better...BUT GOD IS THE BESTEST!
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w00t demon hunter \m/
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